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	<title>on the  Bankruptcy Soapbox &#187; Means test</title>
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		<title>Means test:  don&#8217;t try this at home</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be an educated client, but don&#8217;t tell me how to do the means test!  For someone who has spent as much time as I have trying to get good bankruptcy information out in the public domain, I found I had a very churlish reaction to a new client who wanted to tell me how his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be an educated client, but don&#8217;t tell me how to do the means test!  For someone who has spent as much time as I have trying to get good bankruptcy information out in the public domain, I found I had a very churlish reaction to a new client who wanted to tell me how his bonus would affect the means test.  What is there about law that makes everyone who is literate think he can read the law, and practice law?</p>
<p>The error this client was making was common:  he assumed that current monthly income was the magic number for an above median income debtor.  He missed the entire part of the &#8220;test&#8221; that looks at deductions from CMI to reach<strong> Monthly Disposable Income</strong>.  Who could tell whether the bonus made a difference on the bottom line without calculating the allowances and deductions?</p>
<p>Makes me ask myself, what is it that I want in a client?  How much knowledge should they have?  Do I really want to teach each client how the means test works, or doesn&#8217;t work, in order to file their case?  Do I truly prefer the passive, non thinking client?  This business of &#8220;medians&#8221; is more complex than it appears on its face.</p>
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		<title>Means test &amp; taxes &#8220;incurred&#8221;:  forward or backward looking</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the mysteries of the universe (well, sorta) was answered for me this month when the UST&#8217;s office wanted to adjust the taxes incurred on the B-22 for taxes as they were projected to be in the future. My position has been that current income is the only part of the means test calculation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the mysteries of the universe (well, sorta) was answered for me this month when the UST&#8217;s office wanted to adjust the taxes incurred on the B-22 for taxes as they were projected to be in the future.</p>
<p>My position has been that current income is the only part of the means test calculation that was determined by looking backward.  By statute, Congress defined &#8220;current monthly income&#8221; to be backward looking. (Conclude what you will about Congress.)  Expenses remained forward looking.</p>
<p>So, if the debtor expected to surrender real estate and lose the interest deduction, their taxes should be calculated, not on what they might owe this year, when they still had the deduction, but looking forward to their tax obligation post surrender of the property.</p>
<p>Others have wondered whether the taxes ought to travel with the income in the look back period.  At some level, that&#8217;s logical, since it defines how much income the debtor has that is disposable, in the broadest sense.  [If you've followed my views on the means test, you will know that any argument about the means test based on logic is per se faulty!]</p>
<p>In my recent case, the UST stated clearly that taxes were a forward looking expense. Of course in my case, where I had increased the tax burden to reflect the fact that in 09 the debtors had not paid all of the mortgage interest due and would therefore have a smaller deduction than in past years, the UST wanted to look<em> further forward </em>to years in which they would be paying mortgage interest as it came due.</p>
<p>You had to know that any little victory would be diluted by the UST&#8217;s world view, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>Doing the means test yourself</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep encountering posts on internet bankruptcy boards from individuals who have &#8220;filled out the means test&#8221; and then proceed to announce their conclusions. Given the uncertainties in the legal community about how to apply the means best and the think and re-think I engage in preparing Form 22, I can&#8217;t imagine a non lawyer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep encountering posts on internet bankruptcy boards from individuals who have &#8220;filled out the means test&#8221; and then proceed to announce their conclusions.  Given the uncertainties in the legal community about how to apply the means best and the think and re-think I engage in preparing <a title="Read through the form" target="_blank" href="http://www.moranlaw.net/B_022A_0108v2.pdf">Form 22</a>, I can&#8217;t imagine a non lawyer learning anything reliable from trying to do this themselves.</p>
<p>The tricky issues include how to deal with income from non filing spouses; from roommates or extended family member; and how to handle business expenses for the self employed.  (One bankruptcy appellate panel recently decided that the judges who drew up the form did it wrong!)  Then there is the dispute on the deduction side about operating expenses for paid for cars; allowances for older cars; debts associated with property you&#8217;re surrendering, and just what part of your telecommunication expenses go on the form.</p>
<p>I cringe when I <a title="My blog on authenticating the means test" target="_blank" href="http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com/2007/12/12/authenticating-the-means-test/">ask a client to sign this form</a>, as they cannot possibly validate all of the entries on the form.</p>
<p>While I won&#8217;t say &#8220;don&#8217;t try this at home&#8221;, I am certain you should <strong>draw no conclusions</strong> about the means test and your eligibility for Chapter 7 based on your efforts to take the test.   Get an experienced bankruptcy lawyer involved.</p>
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		<title>Muttering about the means test</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The stupidity of the means test as a metering device in bankruptcy was apparent as I worked through the case of a single debtor. Because she is a renter with an old, paid-for car, and no unpaid taxes, the means test will compel her to pay a significant amount monthly to her Chapter 13 plan. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stupidity of the <a target="_blank" title="How the means test works" href="http://www.moranlaw.net/means_test.htm">means test </a>as a metering device in bankruptcy was apparent as I worked through the case of a single debtor.  Because she is a renter with an old, paid-for car, and no unpaid taxes, the means test will compel her to pay a significant amount monthly to her Chapter 13 plan.</p>
<p>Whereas, if she had mortgages that were double or triple the amount of her rent, or an upscale new car, or years of unpaid taxes, those payments would be deductions from her income in calculating what she must pay in Chapter 13.  Her unsecured creditors would get nothing:  all the available money would be diverted to secured claims or taxing authorities.</p>
<p>Does it seem to anyone else that we are rewarding the wrong sort of behavior?</p>
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		<title>Unintended consequences of the means test</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m always delighted when I uncover another aspect of the bankruptcy &#8220;reform&#8221; act of 2005 that operates in my client&#8217;s favor. We all know that the law was written to skewer the consumer debtor who was painted as irresponsible and profligate, a picture absolutely at odds with the world as I&#8217;ve seen it in 28 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always delighted when I uncover another aspect of the bankruptcy &#8220;reform&#8221; act of 2005 that operates in my client&#8217;s favor.  We all know that the law was written to skewer the consumer debtor who was painted as irresponsible and profligate, a picture absolutely at odds with the world as I&#8217;ve seen it in 28 years of bankruptcy practice.</p>
<p>Yesterday&#8217;s discovery was how the law treats broken families better than intact families.   My client is a single woman with a teenage child for whom she receives substantial and regular support.  (Thank you, Dad).  In preparing the Chapter 13 version of Form B22 to determine what Mom will have to pay to unsecured creditors, one includes the child support she receives in income;  takes the deductions based on a household of two; then subtracts the support from the final number!</p>
<p>End result:  Mom, my client, gets to figure her expenses including the cost of housing, feeding, and educating her daughter, but then gets to back out of the equation the support she gets for the child.   In this case, it made a $1000/month difference, a $1000 less per month that she must pay to creditors.</p>
<p>I wonder if the cock sure Congressmen who wrote and passed this bill realized that the &#8220;new&#8221; law treats divided families better than the traditional, intact family.  In the meantime, I will take every advantage I can find in this wretched law where it benefits my clients.</p>
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		<title>California Median Family Income &amp; Means Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first hurdle in the newly enacted means test for Chapter 7 eligibility is the median income for a household of comparable size in that state. Those under the median pass the means test at the first hurdle; those above the median go on to calculate if their allowed expenses yield &#8220;disposable income&#8221; sufficient to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first hurdle in the newly enacted<a href="http://www.moranlaw.net/means_test.htm"> means test</a> for Chapter 7 eligibility is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median">median</a> income for a household of comparable size in that state.  Those under the median pass the means test at the first hurdle;  those above the median go on to calculate if their allowed expenses yield &#8220;disposable income&#8221;  sufficient to repay creditors a portion of their claims.</p>
<p>The Census Bureau has just released <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/20070201/bci_data/median_income_table.htm">new figures</a> that are used in bankruptcy cases filed after February 1.  For California, those figures are</p>
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<li>1 person household      $44,499</li>
<li>2 person household        59,086</li>
<li>3 person household        64,118</li>
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<p>One of the glitches in the drafting of the 05 amendments is that the language of the statute talks about comparing the size of the &#8220;household&#8221; to the census figures for &#8220;families&#8221;.  Thus the household may be measured by the Census Bureau&#8217;s &#8220;heads on beds&#8221; standard, irrespective of the degree of economic interdependence of those sleeping in those beds.  Yet we indulge in the fiction that Congress knew what is was thinking when it passed this act.  The more we work with the &#8220;new law&#8221;, the more fictional it  becomes.</p>
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		<title>Only the Consumer Has to Pay</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bankruptcy Code attempts to exclude from its shelter those who &#8220;abuse&#8221; the system. Chapter 7 has a provision in Section 707(b) that allows a challenge to the entitlement of a debtor to get a dishcarge under that chapter. However, only a debtor whose debts are &#8220;primarily consumer&#8221; debts is subject to this scrutiny. One [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bankruptcy Code attempts to exclude from its shelter those who &#8220;abuse&#8221; the system.  Chapter 7 has a <a target="_blank" title="more on substantial abuse" href="http://www.moranlaw.net/substantialabuse.htm">provision in Section 707(b)</a> that allows a challenge to the entitlement of a debtor to get a dishcarge under that chapter.  However, only a debtor whose debts are &#8220;primarily consumer&#8221; debts is subject to this scrutiny.  One whose debts result from business failure or failure to pay their taxes are not subject to review for &#8220;abuse&#8221;, regardless of their ability to pay.</p>
<p>That came home to me as I interviewed a single man with a fine salary, yesterday.  He is exempt from the <a target="_blank" title="get a peak at the test" href="http://www.moranlaw.net/means_test.htm">means test</a> because his debt was incurred in business.  There is certainly a policy argument for making the consequences of business failure tolerable.  That is, I think, a  hallmark of the American business ethic, the acceptance of failure and the encouragement of trying again.</p>
<p>The exclusion from the &#8220;can-pay&#8221; scrutiny for those who haven&#8217;t paid taxes seems to me to be harder to justify.  Our society isn&#8217;t stronger for a policy protecting those who haven&#8217;t paid their fair share of maintaining our infrastructure.</p>
<p>Which leads you back to the unstated premise underlying the means test, that all consumers who can&#8217;t pay their bills are to some degree dishonest.   My learned opinion is <em><strong>HOGWASH.</strong></em></p>
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		<title>UST definitely family unfriendly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sat this afternoon in a 341 meeting for Chapter 13 in which another debtor testified that he had converted his Chapter 7 case to one under Chapter 13 because the UST objected to the support he provided to his 70 year old mother. The UST proposed to take the mother&#8217;s deposition in a city [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sat this afternoon in a 341 meeting for <a href="http://moranlaw.net/chapter_13.htm">Chapter 13</a> in which another debtor testified that he had converted his Chapter 7 case to one under Chapter 13 because the <a href="http://www.moranlaw.net/bankruptcy_trustees.htm">UST</a> objected to the support he provided to his 70 year old mother.  The UST proposed to take the mother&#8217;s deposition in a city 200 miles away.  To save his mother from this inquiry, he converted his case to a Chapter 13.</p>
<p>What kind of public policy is it that tells an adult son he can&#8217;t support his aged mother because MBNA or Citibank has a prior claim on his earnings?  Where is this compassionate conservatism?</p>
<p>Remember, the policy makers at the UST&#8217;s office are political appointees of our President.  All hat and no cattle?  All talk and no substance?</p>
<p>Cathy Moran<br />
<a href="http://www.moranlaw.net">Bankruptcy in Brief</a></p>
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		<title>Different advice after BAPCPA</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked back to see how my advice to clients considering bankruptcy has changed since the amendments of 05 took effect. Deceptively dubbed bankruptcy reform, the changes were designed to narrow the door to the bankruptcy court and shackle debtor&#8217;s attorneys whom Congress blamed for inciting people to file bankruptcy. Where I used to tell [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked back to see how my advice to clients considering bankruptcy has changed since the amendments of 05 took effect.  Deceptively dubbed bankruptcy reform, the changes were designed to narrow the door to the bankruptcy court and shackle debtor&#8217;s attorneys whom Congress blamed for inciting people to file bankruptcy.</p>
<p>Where I used to tell most clients who were unemployed that there was little point in spending precious cash on filing bankruptcy when they had nothing that creditors could take from them.  Wait until things have improved and you have a salary to protect, then we&#8217;ll file your case.</p>
<p>Now, with the uncertainty about just what constitutes abuse in Chapter 7 and the varying judicial decisions about whether  CURRENT MONTHLY INCOME, the backward looking six month average income or the actual income at filing control, I am far more inclined to say file now, when you have neither CMI nor actual excess income.  Scrape up the money and file while there can be no doubt that you have no ability to pay existing debt.  Funny that the new law has made me a far more vocal promoter of filing bankruptcy than before.</p>
<p>I am also much more likely to promote Chapter 13, not because the client must file a repayment plan, but because it allows a client to pay the increased cost of the bankruptcy over time.  These plans usually pay little or nothing to creditors, but they do let the financially strapped buy my help on credit.   Ah, the unintended consequences&#8230;  Between increased attorneys fees, prebankruptcy counseling and post filing financial management classes, higher filing fees, and the production of all the required paper, it simply costs more to be broke.</p>
<p>The Congressional attempt to prohibit lawyers from advising clients to take perfectly lawful acts, such as buying a replacement vehicle or borrowing to file the bankruptcy, has been ruled unconstitutional by the trial courts who have considered the matter.  We can hope that the new Congress may eliminate some of the worst of the other idiocies in the amended law.</p>
<p>Cathy Moran</p>
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